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Is it a prerequisite for the Republican's talking points that they be a complete lie? Well, earlier this week with the "No terrorist attacks during Bush admin/I mean after 9/11 (still a lie)" talking point, now there is a new one. That Obama has just realized that we are at war, and that before his recent speech citing the war against Al Qaeda, that he allegedly thought we weren't at war. They go on national television repeating these lies, of course unchallenged on Fox news. MSNBC did a good job of knocking down the lie told by a conservative guest, when she reminded him that in his inaugural address even, Obama said we were a nation at war. Go figure. Here's a good video going into more detail on this:
Republican Lying Point Memos
Sun Jan 10, 2010 2:28 PM EST
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It just amazes me that they can go on TV and say these things with straight faces, and even more, that people believe them.
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The overwhelming majority of those that believe the lies are unwilling or -- more likely -- unable to recognize truth.
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It is a way to try to bring this President down, "by any means necessary".
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"Is it a prerequisite for the Republican's talking points that they be a complete lie?"
Yes. The bigger the better. And to do it convincing, with a smile on their faces. Oh... and while wearing an American flag lapel pin and a "Praise the Lord" button. And it's necessary to interject compliments about our troops at ever opportunity.
That's the magic formula.
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tank has it. But there is also a 'throw everything against the wall in the hopes some of it sticks sometimes.'
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The people who believe Fox are the one's with the same IQ as Spongebob!
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The scary thing is that my conservative friends (yes.... I admit having them) truly believe that the lies are the truth. If fox news says it, it must be true is their mentality.
Scary .....
- 12 votes
is gitmo closed?
will there be cameras (transparency) in the health care committee meeting?
they are all a bunch of self serving elite. republican and democrat alike.
- 4 votes
The fact that Gitmo isn't closed, YET, is obvious.
Where do you send these people?
If you send them back to wherever you got them from, they will probably take up where they left off.
There has to be an alternative that is workable before you can close it.
That doesn't constitute a lie, it constitutes a delay.
My brother is one who watches Fox news and there is no talking to him, he's adamant, wears an "Impeach Obama" button.
- 6 votes
These posts make it sound like republicans are the only ones that lie. Democrats aren't any better. They are all a bunch of liars up there.
- 1 vote
The Democrats may be guilty of "Half Truths" and some Republicans are guilty of this as well.
However the tongue twisters that most of us are referring to are solely quotes by SOME Republicans. Like Cheney and Giuliani, for instance, at least that's what I'm referring to.
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The people who believe Fox are the one's with the same IQ as Spongebob!
Thankfully, Squidward is smarter than that and can see through Fox's lies. =)
- 6 votes
They lie, and then lie that they lied. Even when there are clips showing them lie, and then lying about lying.
So that makes them stupid as well.
Of course this will all be denied.
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They are all a bunch of liars up there.
That's the biggest lie of all. I know you don't mean to lie, we could just call it an over simplification or rash generalization. But it certainly is not true, and does a great disservice to the many honest, dedicated representatives of our government who work tirelessly to serve the American People for the betterment of us all.
But it is really a tactic of the GOP that puts them on equal ground with the Majority party, not by changeing and become better, but by bring down everyone to their level, and should discourage at every opportunity. Germany lost a Democracy as it was discredited before in the same way. Chipping away at it bit by bit, this is what undermining is.
Lowering the river instead of raising the Bridge.
I don't know how many more times America can withstand this before we all run out of free flowing water..
And we are paying their salaries with the socialist Obama government.
Why don't the Republicans at least repudiate socialism by giving up their own socialized medicine that the public pays for?
Take a page from the teaparty crowd and 'keep your socialist hands off your own healthcare', why don't you?
- 6 votes
#3 - Sun Jan 10, 2010 7:38 PM ESTwhy dont all government workers get on the new health care plan. they came up with it, let it service them...
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Last I checked, there was a provision in the bill that would put government workers on the new plan as well.
I think that there was an amendment proposed by the Republicans to call the Democrats bluff, having to do with a Public Option and having Congressional participation, which did pass much to the chagrin of the Republicans. However, it's a mute point since there doesn't seem to be any chance of having a Public Option.
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It just amazes me how liberals are unashamed to fake stupidity at the simplest things Republicans say. A four-year-old could have understood that the mayor meant AFTER 9/11.
Immutable Truths About Liberals #8. Liberals cannot be embarrassed. They lack the gene to blush.
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#5 - Sun Jan 10, 2010 11:16 PM ESTThen please explain it, I must be less than four years old. Please use some of that mind altering pixie dust that the right uses to confuse the American public, you know the one that lets you conveniently forget historical facts and figures in light of today's talking point. That is, if you haven't used it all up printing Going Rogue.
I'm not sure what can be said after, "We've had no terrorist attacks under Bush" that could lessen the, "WTF did he just say?" effect.
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The Spirit:
Rudy Giuliani is a shrewd politician, former mayor of New York City, a former prosecutor.
He knows the power of words.
He measures each word that he says for effect, and be assured that he said what he meant to say, and meant what he said.
And even if your stretch is true, and he meant after 9/11, then what about the anthrax mailings, after 9/11. Shoe Bomber, after 9/11.
Either way your wrong.
- 12 votes
Rudi has no problem with lying. He just keeps smiling.
In fact, that's how you can tell he's lying.
- 8 votes
I vaguely recall an anthrax attack after 9/11......wasn't that TERRORIST related? Sheesh, Spirit shos himself to be a typical repug.
- 4 votes
And The Shoe bomber.. lets see, December 22, 2001.
December is still after September, even in the Orwellian calendar used by the Fa-Right isn't it?
Didn't we convict and inprison this guy in an American cout of law and put him inan American prison?
That silly Bush couldn't he see the future and know that Obama was going to try to do the same thing and make the GOP look like idiots for condemning him for it?.
Even Giuliani praised the American Justice system.
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It seems the GOP was referring to Obama's decision to get rid of the term "War on Terror" from any White House speeches. Of course, Libs will pick apart any thing that is said by someone from the right, in order to get attention off of their failures, (ie. the fact that I'm actually wasting time responding to this blog shows that it does work.) but that does not take away the fact that the dems are failing. The only thing that seems to be going well right now is the stock market, and even that has seemed to platuea over the last few weeks.
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#7 - Mon Jan 11, 2010 12:27 PM ESTThe only thing that seems to be going well right now is the stock market, and even that has seemed to platuea over the last few weeks.
After the 60%+ increase from its lows, yes it has slowed down. Did you expect it to continue at that pace?
Is there a reason it wouldn't?? Obama took credit for it going up when it had nothing to do with him. How come he's not taking credit for it now??
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It's up over 2.5% from January 1. That would be a huge annual return, so yes, I'm sure he would be happy to take credit for it.
Harry Reid says Obama's look and feel is more marketable than Jesse Jackson's look and feel. No drama Obama, Mac vs. PC
#8 - Mon Jan 11, 2010 12:28 PM ESTI'm a Democrat. It's not just the Republicans lying. A few weeks ago Harry Reid went on TV and with a straight face said, "we are leaning toward talking about a public option" - then he took his payoffs from the insurance companies (while giving their CEOs handjobs) and WALLAH...no public option!
We need to vote all these credents and insects from both parties out!
I'm not for one second getting on a GOP bashing bandwagon.....every American voter should take note of the amount of sillyness we have seen over the last few days...and resolve that in the next election they will not vote for anyone who is already in office! ANYONE!
If we clean out Congress we may be able to get something done.....and that goesfor Obama too!
#9 - Mon Jan 11, 2010 12:53 PM ESTI'm a conservative and I'm with you, buddy. Both parties are blatant liars. No incumbents for the next four elections.
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Scream loud enough often enough it becomes fact. They are just using a page out of the Bush/Cheney/Rove play book....it keep President Bush in office for 2 terms.
- 2 votes
#10 - Mon Jan 11, 2010 1:18 PM ESTIt amazes me how Republicans actually believed the lies and crap that came out of George Bush's mouth, with that evil smirk on his face. Obama is, in my opinion, a straight talker and I believe he will make a remarkable postive impact on our Country if people will stop spreading the lies, just shut up and wait, then if he doesn't, then vote for someone else.
Reid saying Obama is "African-American with no Negro dialect", is not a raceist remark. you stupid Republicans, It is a fact of the man's heritage and education, .
#11 - Mon Jan 11, 2010 1:26 PM ESTIt's Monday afternoon and I didn't get my Republican talking points for this week yet. Can someone e-mail them to me or give me their phone number and I'll give them a call. I just hate when they forget to send them to me.
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